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    Cricket Series to be played in UAE

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    3 Tests, 4 ODI and 3 T20 Matches to be played from January 17, 2012 to February 27, 2012
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    Flower wants DRS rethink
    England coach Andy Flower defended the effectiveness of the decision review system but said the protocol when using the technology needed to be reviewed.

    The England coach visited the match referee Javagal Srinath in the latter stages of the Test to seek an explanation after England captain Andrew Strauss was adjudged to have been caught behind, even though there was no evidence from hot spot that he had hit the ball.

    Earlier Saeed Ajmal had also been given out to a catch at short leg that where hot spot was unavailable and replays suggested the ball had missed both Ajmal's bat and gloves. Flower believes the protocol where a third umpire requires categorical proof of an error before overturning a decision might need to be reviewed.

    "With DRS, we get more decisions right, so I think it's a good addition to the game," Flower said. "I think Ajmal's dismissal was worse than Strauss'. It was very obviously not out. Strauss was unfortunate, one of those examples where technology didn't come up with the right decision.

    "I certainly don't think a side should lose a review in those circumstances. It wasn't proven one way or the other whether they hit it or missed it, so I think the protocol does need looking at.

    "I wanted to have a chat with Srinath about both those decisions. We're always looking for consistency from umpires and there was certainly inconsistency about the way Ian Bell's decision was handled in the Sydney Test and how Strauss' was handled here. But in the main they've a very tough job so I wouldn't want to criticise them too much."

    Flower also suggested the England players' long break from their last Test - in August against India - might have been a contributory factor in this defeat. "I hope that doesn't sound like excuse-making but it is part of the reason," he said. "Some have had two months off cricket, some as much as four months off, so that could be part of the reason we underperformed so badly in this Test.

    "We badly under-performed with the bat and, even though the ball wasn't turning much, we didn't deal with it skilfully. We made poor decisions. We made it look harder than it was to be quite frank.

    "It was a bit of a shock," Flower said. "Look, we played poorly and we particularly batted poorly. Test cricket is a tough game and if you keep on batting like that you will be punished. Pakistan were good enough to do so.

    "We haven't had that much time working together since India, although I thought our preparation at the academy here was excellent. The two first-class games were good and the opposition provided good competition. There were no problems on that front. With three tours of the sub-continent this year, all of them important, our play against spin very obviously has to be a lot better than that."

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    Defeat a 'good slap in the face' - Prior

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    Matt Prior, the England wicketkeeper, has described defeat at the hands of Pakistan in the first Test in Dubai as "a good slap in the face", as England arrived in Abu Dhabi adamant that they can recover to square the series.

    Prior, one of the few England batsmen to enjoy a decent game in Dubai, admitted that their pride had taken a serious dent, but said that England's fine record over the last couple of years should not be annulled after one poor game and that confidence remains high.

    "It's never nice to lose, but to lose in that fashion is even worse," Prior said. "We're a proud team. We're used to walking off the pitch having inflicted the sort of defeat Pakistan inflicted upon us, so it was a very bitter pill to swallow. No-one in this team enjoyed it one little bit.

    "It's taken a few days to get over it, but now there is a steely determination that it will not happen again. This performance has given us a real good slap in the face.

    "You don't become a bad team over night. We've had one bad performance. But look at the stats. Look at the performances our guys have put in over recent years. We're still a very good batting unit. We've had two bad innings, granted, but all the guys have taken that on the chin and accepted that we have to improve. We have to get better. I'll back this team and this batting unit to come back strong."

    Echoing the thoughts of his coach, Andy Flower, Prior suggested that England may have come in to the match a little underprepared, having not played a Test since August.

    "You can spend as much time in the gym and as much time in the nets or on the training ground as you want," Prior said. "But until you're out in the middle, you don't get that ring-ready feeling. Getting used to little things takes time: the nerves; travelling into the ground; switching on and off again when batting. Having that two or three month break was invaluable. It was necessary. But obviously it is then tough to come back in and be ready."

    Prior fielded what have become the obligatory questions about Saeed Ajmal's bowling action, and reiterated the view that the England players were not allowing such issues to distract them.

    "It would be easy for players to make excuses after we've performed badly," he said. "But we can't get caught up in what is going on off the pitch. It has nothing to do with the players. The ICC has systems in place. We shouldn't worry about things we don't have to worry about.

    "The wicket wasn't one of the reasons we lost, either. I thought it was a brilliant cricket wicket. You expect to come over here and find very flat pitches with very little in them for the bowlers. But the seamers had a bit of bounce and a bit of movement, there was a bit of spin and, and if you batted well and played good shots, you earned value for your runs."

    The second Test starts in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday and Prior agreed that England's priority was an improvement in the way they played Ajmal's spin bowling.

    "The obvious thing we need to think about is how we play spin and how we play Saeed Ajmal," he said. "But it's important we don't get caught up with just one bloke. Umar Gul came in and took wickets in the second innings, so we just need to improve our general game really.

    "We tend to come back strong after these sorts of losses. We've had that bad one now - it's out of the way - now we're going to come back strong. We're behind the eight-ball now and we know we have to play good enough cricket to force results in last two matches."

    The England squad - now with the wives and girlfriends in tow - and the Pakistan squad both travelled to Abu Dhabi on Sunday. Although they stayed at the same hotel in Dubai, there has been little fraternisation between the sides. If there may be little warmth, however, there is certainly respect. England know they are embroiled in a tough series against a strong side. By going 1-0 down in a three-match series, they have made life desperately hard for themselves.
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    Why the bloody hell is every1 against DRS?

    they are afraid of our bowling i guess

    Indians ko to moat hi pari vi DRS ki
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    Forget about first Test, look ahead: Mohsin Khan




    Pakistan cricket team coach, Mohsin Hassan Khan on Monday said he has told the players to forget about the first winning Test against England, as it is now part of history and look ahead.

    “I have told them that the first Test is now part of history, forget about it and look ahead to the remaining matches,” blogs.bettor.com quoted Mohsin Khan as saying.

    Khan said that England is undoubtedly a professional and strong team that can make a comeback into series at any stage under any circumstances.

    Mohsin, took over as the interim coach of Pakistan team after Waqar Younis stepped down in September last year citing health and personal issues. He has coached Pakistan in two series so far, against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Pakistan achieved victory in both.

    He said that the reason behind the success of the team over the past 12 months was the hunger in the players to keep on winning.

    “They now relish being called a top team due to their performances and they are proud of this. They are now trying to be more consistent and strong in their performances,” he said.

    After claiming victory over England, Khan gave his players a day off, so that they are relaxed when the second Test gets underway in Abu Dhabi on Wednesday (January 25).

    “It just shows the new positive approach of our team. The players wanted to have a training session one day after the Test ended but I told them that they take two days off and relax,” Khan said.

    Mohsin said that he was impressed with the stupendous performance of the team against a formidable England line up. However, he threw caution to the wind by asking his side not to lose their heads, as Strauss and his men are likely to make a strong comeback in the second match in Abu Dhabi.
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    Gud luck team Pakistan
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    Solid Pakistan will take some moving
    Aberration or new era? False dawn or coronation? Undercooked or in decline? The answer to these questions and many more will be revealed over the next few days as Pakistan and England renew rivalries in Abu Dhabi.

    We should resist reading too much into one result. But should Pakistan win again, then it will be fair to start drawing conclusions about their revival. And England's enduring problems in Asia.

    A glance at the record books suggests that winning at the Sheikh Zayed Stadium will prove tough. The two previous Tests here have both ended in draws and have produced three double centuries. It is interesting to note that, in both instances, Pakistan's captain, Misbah-ul-Haq, won the toss and inserted the opposition. On the first occasion, South Africa amassed 584 but not before they had been 33 for three, while on the second occasion, Sri Lanka were dismissed for 197. If there is any life to be exploited in the pitch, it might well be in the first few hours.

    Much of England's success in recent years has come against sides that have imploded: India, Australia and Pakistan come to mind. All were in transition and all capitulated under pressure. Pakistan are unlikely to do that.

    Pakistan play, on the whole, solid, sensible cricket. In the first Test, they were successful through bowling straight, playing straight and displaying discipline and patience in all departments. They applied the pressure and England buckled.

    That should not be interpreted as faint praise. Success in cricket, as in all facets of life, is so often reliant more on perspiration than inspiration. Genius is wonderful but hard work often prevails. In the likes of Misbah-ul-Haq, Mohammad Hafeez, Taufeeq Umar, Umar Gul and the underrated Abdur Rehman, Pakistan have mature cricketers who know what it takes to prosper at this level. Besides, in Saeed Ajmal and Younis Khan, Pakistan are blessed with a sprinkling of genius.

    Saeed was especially impressive in Dubai. His use of the crease, his variations in pace and his subtle turn in each direction, presented huge problems for England. How they combat him in Abu Dhabi may well prove crucial.

    Talk of Pakistan becoming the best team in the world is premature. They have started well but there is a huge distance to travel before that can be said. They have won series against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka to date. Beating England will provide clearer evidence of progress.
    Whatever happens over the next few weeks, the need for Pakistan to recruit another new coach has surely receded. As interim, Mohsin Khan has done everything that has been asked of him and more. While he is not the most hands-on of coaches, he has helped create a calm environment in which the players can shine. Further talk of Dav Whatmore appears superfluous.

    But make no mistake, this is Misbah's team. He is the one dictating the tactics, setting the tone and ensuring the happy sense of calm that currently pervades the squad. He assumed the captaincy with Pakistan cricket at a crossroads and has, to date, played the hand that fate dealt him masterfully. Coming from behind to beat his Pakistan team in a three-Test series will be desperately tough.

    If any team can do it, England can. It is almost four years since they have lost two Tests in a row - against South Africa in 2008 - and, while only ten teams in history have recovered from one-nil down to win a three-Test series, England did so as recently as 2008. At least six, and possibly seven, of the team that played the last Test in that series in New Zealand will represent England in this game. The last four times that England have lost a Test, they have bounced back with a win in their next. But none of those results were against one of the major teams on Asian pitches.

    England have one injury concern. Chris Tremlett has reported stiffness in his back and side, and took no part in training on Tuesday. He is most unlikely to play. As a consequence Steven Finn, a proven wicket-taker but liable to leak runs, and Graeme Onions, a wicket-to-wicket bowler who could be considered an ideal horse for this course, will be considered. The spin of Monty Panesar is another option but there is little precedent for England fielding two spinners in a four-man attack. Indeed, the last time they did so was in December 2003, when they drew with Sri Lanka in Kandy.

    And there's the rub. England have a tough balancing act to perform. Excluding Bangladesh, they have won just one Test in Asia since March 2001. In that game, against India in Mumbai in 2006, they fielded two spinners.

    That might suggest the inclusion of Panesar. But the problem for England is that in that game, they also played three fast bowlers. The presence of Andrew Flintoff as an allrounder allowed them that luxury but, in the absence of Tim Bresnan who might have batted at seven and displaced Eoin Morgan, it is hard to see a way that two spinners can be accommodated. Perhaps, one day, Ben Stokes or Chris Woakes will solve that problem. For now, the loss of Bresnan is enormous. It is highly unlikely that England, after the batting failure of Dubai, will respond by dropping a batsman to fit in another bowler. But it might well be their best method of winning.

    That issue is compounded by the concerns about their top-order batting. The openers, with nine of their last 11 partnerships failing to pass 25, are one issue. The lack of form shown by Kevin Pietersen, Morgan and Ian Bell is another. But it is worth remembering that Bell averaged over 100 in 2011, Pietersen scored 175 two Tests ago and Eoin Morgan scored a century in the Test before that. They have had, at present, one bad game. Nothing more.

    It is Andrew Strauss' form that is of greatest concern. With just one century in 26 Tests and an average of 23 from the start of the Sri Lanka series, his form cannot be dismissed quite so readily. At the pre-match media conference, Strauss admitted his lack of runs in Dubai was "disappointing" before conceding he was "conscious that it's important as a captain to lead from the front with regards to scoring runs". England will provide every opportunity for Strauss to rediscover his form and there is no immediate danger of a change of personnel. But it could become an issue.

    One bad result, as England keep telling us, does not make them a poor side. But two bad results? That is a different matter.

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    Placid pitch could aid England comeback
    England's No. 1 ranking hangs heavily upon them after their 10-wicket defeat against Pakistan in the first Test in Dubai. If their first-innings capitulation was forgivable after a five-month lay-off from Test cricket, their collapse second time around was met with more consternation. The general perception was that this was one of England's worst batting displays for years.
    The Sheikh Zayed Stadium, on the face of it, offers the chance of redemption. It has only staged two Tests and both finished in high-scoring draws. Pakistan and South Africa have both scored more than 500 in their first innings here so Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook, in their 100th innings together as an opening pair, have every chance to reach the landmark in style.

    Pakistan impressed in Dubai with the methodical way in which they dismantled England but they will surely find them more resilient opponents here.

    Form guide

    Pakistan: WWWDW
    England: LWWWW
    Players to watch

    Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook might be about to open England's innings together for the 100th time but their partnership is showing signs of vulnerability. They have failed to reach double figures in seven of their last 11 innings and Strauss himself is in a lean run of form. Pakistan's new-ball bowler, Umar Gul, is one of the few survivors from their humiliating tour of England in 2010 and if he continues his domination over the England pair he will maintain Pakistan's momentum.
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    Chris Tremlett has a sore back and after his mediocre display in Dubai that seems ample cause to leave him out. England are most likely to maintain their formula of three quicks by drafting in Steven Finn but they will study the pitch anxiously before definitely omitting Monty Panesar as a second spinner.
    Pakistan (probable) 1 Mohammad Hafeez, 2 Taufeeq Umar, 3 Azhar Ali, 4 Younis Khan, 5 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 6 Asad Shafiq, 7 Adnan Akmal (wk), 8 Abdur Rehman, 9 Umar Gul, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Aizaz Cheema.

    England (probable) 1 Andrew Strauss (capt), 2 Alastair Cook, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Ian Bell, 6 Eoin Morgan, 7 Matt Prior (wk), 8 Stuart Broad, 9 Graeme Swann, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steven Finn.

    Pitch and conditions

    Matt Prior, England's wicketkeeper, rightly praised Dubai as an excellent Test pitch. It was not quite the benign surface that many had anticipated, offering a little encouragement for seam and spin bowlers alike. Abu Dhabi will be different, the warnings go, but at least the quicks on both sides will find the cooler temperatures in their favour.
    Stats and trivia

    England could slip from the top of the ICC Test Championship if they lose to Pakistan by more than a one-Test margin in the three-Test series.
    Saeed Ajmal passed Graeme Swann after the first Test as the leading spin bowler in the ICC Test rankings.
    Ajmal's 1 for 167 in Sri Lanka's second dig at Sheikh Zayed Stadium last year is his worst analysis in a Test innings.
    Umar Gul has dismissed Alastair Cook five times in seven Tests, making the England opener Gul's joint-second most-frequent victim
    Jonathan Trott and Misbah-ul-Haq both passed 2,000 runs in Tests in Dubai.
    Quotes

    "I think even Straussy swore after being given out down the leg side in the [first] Test."
    Alastair Cook, England's opener, reveals the frustration of his usually placid captain.
    "They are better batsmen than us. I don't know what happened, really."
    Adnan Akmal, the Pakistan wicketkeeper, on England's dismal Dubai showing.

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    Toss na jeetay tou bohot marain gey England walay. Jis tarha Pakistani shor macha rahay hain na jeet k unta hi England ko ghussa hona hai ab ki baar.
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    Misbah and Shafiq has helped pull things back for Pakistan.. Playing well

    Pakistan 177/4 Asad Shafiq 39 And Misbah Ul Haq 32
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