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    Default Re: Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    Quote Originally Posted by zain View Post
    bahot khoob Hijab saahiba,achhi koshish rahi yeh aap ki,
    radeef to aap ne jaan liya ke aek sheir main radeef badal gaya hai,lekin qaafiya par kon sochey ga,
    aap ne is ghazal main qaafiya ka bilkul khayaal naheen rakha,yeh achhi baat naheen,ghazal main teen cheezain,bahot zaroori hai,radeef,qaafiya,aor behar,(wazn),behar par to ham ba.ad main baat karain ge,jab us ka mazmoon post ho ga,lekin radeef aor qaafiya to ab aap jaanti ho,
    chalain jaldi se aek aor ghazal likh daaliye,aor us main radeef aor qaafiya ka khayaal bhi rakhiye ga,
    bahot khush rahiye,
    Assalamo-Alekam Janab!
    Hum aap ki baat bilkul samjh rahey hein, hum radeef aur qafiya mein kuch had tameez ab ker letey hein!
    LEKIN, yahan per aik sawal hai!
    Yeh Nasir Kazmi Sahab ki aik ghazal hai:
    apni dhun mein REHTA HOON
    mein bhi tere JAISA HOON
    oo pichli rutt kay saathi
    ab kay baras mein TANHA HOON
    is ghazal mein REHTA & JAISA qafiya ho ga
    aur HOON, HOON radeef
    my question is kay kia radeef ka DOU ALFAAZ hona shart hai
    kyon kay is ghazal kay mutabiq, tou sirf last dou words her shair mein similar hein, tou woh kia hon gey, qafiya, radeef, both???
    isay explain ker dein please!

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    Default Re: Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hijab View Post
    Assalamo-Alekam Janab!
    Hum aap ki baat bilkul samjh rahey hein, hum radeef aur qafiya mein kuch had tameez ab ker letey hein!
    LEKIN, yahan per aik sawal hai!
    Yeh Nasir Kazmi Sahab ki aik ghazal hai:
    apni dhun mein REHTA HOON
    mein bhi tere JAISA HOON
    oo pichli rutt kay saathi
    ab kay baras mein TANHA HOON
    is ghazal mein REHTA & JAISA qafiya ho ga
    aur HOON, HOON radeef
    my question is kay kia radeef ka DOU ALFAAZ hona shart hai
    kyon kay is ghazal kay mutabiq, tou sirf last dou words her shair mein similar hein, tou woh kia hon gey, qafiya, radeef, both???
    isay explain ker dein please!
    radeef main alfaaz ki koyi had muqarar naheen hoti,aek lafz bhi ho sakta hai,2,3,4,5 gharz jitney marzi lafz chaahain radeef main aa saktey hain,

    radeef...woh hota hai jo har sher ke doosarey misrey main,bilkul same shakal main ho,jesey in ashaar main,hoon.( hoon,choonke har sheir ke doosare misrey main ussi tarah se aa raha hai,jesey ke pehley sheir main,to issey radeef kahain ge,( is ki bajaaye agar yeh hota....maiN hoon,..ya...hooN main,tab bhi yeh radeef hi hota,),
    in ashaar main ...rehtaa, jesaa, tanhaa, qaafiya hai,(in teenon alfaaz ki aawaaz aek jesi hai,khaas tor se jahaan lafz khatam hota hai,yehni teenoN ke aakhir main "aa" aata hai,so in teenoN alfaaz ko,qaafiya kahain ge,(aor in se miltey jultey sabhi alfaaz ko,ham qaafiya,........jesey.....tanhaa,jesaa,rehtaa,bichRaa,bhatka a,jaltaa,bachtaa,chaltaa,in sab alfaaz ko "ham qaafiya" kahain ge.
    agar ab bhi samajhney main mushkil ho to phir se poochh lijiye ga,
    Dastaar beich kar maiN bachaauN jo Zain sar
    hai aarzoo-e-zeest, magar is qadar naheeN


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    Default Re: Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    zaberdast ...:?)

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    Default Re: Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    Quote Originally Posted by zain View Post
    radeef main alfaaz ki koyi had muqarar naheen hoti,aek lafz bhi ho sakta hai,2,3,4,5 gharz jitney marzi lafz chaahain radeef main aa saktey hain,

    radeef...woh hota hai jo har sher ke doosarey misrey main,bilkul same shakal main ho,jesey in ashaar main,hoon.( hoon,choonke har sheir ke doosare misrey main ussi tarah se aa raha hai,jesey ke pehley sheir main,to issey radeef kahain ge,( is ki bajaaye agar yeh hota....maiN hoon,..ya...hooN main,tab bhi yeh radeef hi hota,),
    in ashaar main ...rehtaa, jesaa, tanhaa, qaafiya hai,(in teenon alfaaz ki aawaaz aek jesi hai,khaas tor se jahaan lafz khatam hota hai,yehni teenoN ke aakhir main "aa" aata hai,so in teenoN alfaaz ko,qaafiya kahain ge,(aor in se miltey jultey sabhi alfaaz ko,ham qaafiya,........jesey.....tanhaa,jesaa,rehtaa,bichRaa,bhatka a,jaltaa,bachtaa,chaltaa,in sab alfaaz ko "ham qaafiya" kahain ge.
    agar ab bhi samajhney main mushkil ho to phir se poochh lijiye ga,
    Assalamo-Alekam!
    Ji, is ghazal mein hum jantey hein kay radeef kon sa hai aur qafiya!
    Lekin hum nay jo ghazal likhi hai, us mein bhi last 2 words kia radeef ya qafiya nahi hon gey.
    HIEN tou radeef ho ga.
    NAHIN........kia ho ga phir?
    kyon her shair kay dosrey misray mein hum nay HEIN say pehlay NAHIN likha hai.....!

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    lagta hai aap ne mere reply ko ghor se naheen paRa,warna aap baat samajh gayi hoti,
    chalain kher aap ko phir se samjhata hoon,..........

    radeef kaya hai?.....radeef....,us lafz, ya alfaaz ko kehtey hain jo ghazal main har sheir ke doosarey misrey ke aakhir main baar baar,aek hi shakal main aayain.yehni bilkul aek jesa aaye.

    qaafiya kaya hai?.....qaafiya ...us lafz ko kehtey hain jo ghazal waghera main har sheir ke aakhir par,RADEEF SE FORAN PEHLEY aaye.

    ab aap ki ghazal ke kuchh ash.aar dekhtey hain,in ash.aar main radeef,ko kaaley rang se,jab ke qaafiya ko surkh rang se waazeya karta hoon,ghor se dekhiye,aor samajhney ki koshish kijiye ga.

    aesa naheen hai ke tanha naheen hain
    haan magar munh se kehtey naheen hain

    maana ke anaa ke aseer hain ham
    par jaanaaN ham haqeer naheen haiN

    ho jaati haiN,ham se bhi khataayain aksar
    aakhir ko insaaN hain,farishtey to naheen haiN

    ab aap in teenoN sheron ko ghor se dekhain,in teenoN sheiroN main,"naheeN haiN" radeef kehlaaye ga.
    lekin in main qaafiya naheen hai,kiyoon ke pehley misrey main,.." tanha",...doosarey main..." kehtey"....doosarey sheir main..." haqeer"......teesarey sheir main...."to" ...ke alfaaz aaye hain,aor in chaaroN alfaaz ki aawaazain mukhtalif haiN,is liye in ko qaafiya naheen kahain ge,is ki bajaaye agar yoon hota,jesey pehley misrey main hai.."tanha", issi tarah doosarey misrey,aor phir baaqi sheiron main bhi yeh alfaaz hote........
    tanha,....toota,.machlaa.jhatkaa....dhoka...dekha.......wagh era ke alfaaz hotey to ham in ko qaafiya kehtey.
    umeed hai ab aap samajh gayi hongi,
    agar ab bhi samajh naheen aayi to phir se poochh lijiye ga,
    bahot khush rahiye,

    Dastaar beich kar maiN bachaauN jo Zain sar
    hai aarzoo-e-zeest, magar is qadar naheeN


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    wah kia baat hai

    bht bht bht khoobsurt

    pehla kita bht acha laga mujy

    2q0koia - Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

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    bohat shukriya

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    ji achi koshish hai .. daad qabool kijiye.. magar behtri ki gunjayesh mojood hai .. safar jari rakhiye.. Nawazish..

    wafa aur dua ke saath
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    koitaveezho - Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    .....JI RAHAY HEIN KAMAL KERTAY HEIN.....

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    bohat shukriya

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    Default Re: Aisa Nahi Hai Kay Tanha Nahi Hein!

    hijab...shiri parho ziyada to malom ho jay ga ...shiri ka qawaid o zawabit... khush raho...koshish buri nahen

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