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    Default Re: 1 hindu ka shikwa...lamha fikriya...read caref

    Quote Originally Posted by ~*Rano*~ View Post
    hmmm

    apni apni soch apna apna aqeeda hai...

    hum bazurgon ko mantay hain..coz wo Allah k wo log hain jin ka zikr quran-e-pak main pehli he surat main ker diya Allah ne....." humiien seedha rasta dikha un logon ka rasta jin per tera inaam howa..."

    tu inaam jin per howa wo kon log hain?...ji yahi Allah k naik banday...jin ko hum bazurg mantay hain.....or wo log zinda hotay hain..bas dunia se parda hota hai un ka.....jabhi tu un ki kabrien un k mazaar Allah talah ibaad rakhta hai......

    buht se log hain jo ais dunia se jatay hain...buht buht naik log b jatay hain ais dunia se....kaya sab k mazar bantay hain...nai....yeh wohi khas log hain Allah k jo aj b apni qabron main zinda salmat hain...

    kher baki sajday kerna mazaron per ja ker or shirk kerna...yeh imaan ki kamzoori hai....or buht galat cheez hai jo keh nai honi chahiye.....

    baki her ik ka apna nazariya hai apni soch hai apna imaan hai....ais per behas nai ki ja sakti....
    agree......

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    Default Re: 1 hindu ka shikwa...lamha fikriya...read caref

    Assalamu-Alekam WRWB
    yeh aik naye discussion shuro ho jaye gi and it may lead to some commotion, so i would avoid it.
    but would say one and only one thing, naik logon jaisay honay ki dua mangna aik alag baat hai, magar naik logon se 'MANGNA' alag issue
    hamein tou AAP(SAWW) se bhi nahi mangna, un ke sadqay mang saktay, ALLAH(SWT) AAP(SAWW) ka wasta de saktay hein, magar directly AAP(SAWW) se tou nahi mangtay!!!!
    tou kia naik, matqi, shaheed AAP(SAWW) se bhi onchay darjay per hein? NAAUZ-BILLAH.
    No doubt, Pakistan mein yeh mizaro per jana, sajda kerna, ASTAGFIRULLAH bohat bhar geya hai, jo ke shirk hai, bidatein ban gaye hein, woh he baat aa jati hai, masail ziada and roshni dikhanay wal bohat kam!!
    yahan per mein aik aur choti si baat kerti chalon, aik gayon mein aik aurat mer gaye, jo ke bilkul bhi naik, parhaizgar nahi thi, magar us ke ghar walon ne kia kiya ke us ki qabar per jhanday(flags) laga diye, lights waghera laga di and mashoor ker diya ke yeh bari karma wala bibi thi, aur log joq-der-joq us qabar per janay lagay and wahi shirk kernay lag gaye.
    ise taran ka aik aur waqeye, aik banday na jaan bojh ker logon ki jahalat dikhnay ke liye aik donkey ki qabar ko mazar bana diya and log usay bhi sajda kernay la gaye..........!!!!!!!!
    asal baat aik he hai ke mangna sirf aur sirf ALLAH(SWT) se hai. jab woh namak tak kehta hai mujh se mango tou phir..!
    buzurgon ki izat kerna alag baat hai, un ki achi talimat ko bhi agar aap follow kerna chahtay hein tu karein,
    lekin mere aqeeda tou yeh he hai ke
    Kitab ALLAH ki aur Peer-e-Kamil AAP(SAWW) ki zaat, aur koi thikana kyon dhonday!!!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: 1 hindu ka shikwa...lamha fikriya...read caref

    Quote Originally Posted by Hijab View Post
    Assalamu-Alekam WRWB
    yeh aik naye discussion shuro ho jaye gi and it may lead to some commotion, so i would avoid it.
    but would say one and only one thing, naik logon jaisay honay ki dua mangna aik alag baat hai, magar naik logon se 'MANGNA' alag issue
    hamein tou AAP(SAWW) se bhi nahi mangna, un ke sadqay mang saktay, ALLAH(SWT) AAP(SAWW) ka wasta de saktay hein, magar directly AAP(SAWW) se tou nahi mangtay!!!!
    tou kia naik, matqi, shaheed AAP(SAWW) se bhi onchay darjay per hein? NAAUZ-BILLAH.
    No doubt, Pakistan mein yeh mizaro per jana, sajda kerna, ASTAGFIRULLAH bohat bhar geya hai, jo ke shirk hai, bidatein ban gaye hein, woh he baat aa jati hai, masail ziada and roshni dikhanay wal bohat kam!!
    yahan per mein aik aur choti si baat kerti chalon, aik gayon mein aik aurat mer gaye, jo ke bilkul bhi naik, parhaizgar nahi thi, magar us ke ghar walon ne kia kiya ke us ki qabar per jhanday(flags) laga diye, lights waghera laga di and mashoor ker diya ke yeh bari karma wala bibi thi, aur log joq-der-joq us qabar per janay lagay and wahi shirk kernay lag gaye.
    ise taran ka aik aur waqeye, aik banday na jaan bojh ker logon ki jahalat dikhnay ke liye aik donkey ki qabar ko mazar bana diya and log usay bhi sajda kernay la gaye..........!!!!!!!!
    asal baat aik he hai ke mangna sirf aur sirf ALLAH(SWT) se hai. jab woh namak tak kehta hai mujh se mango tou phir..!
    buzurgon ki izat kerna alag baat hai, un ki achi talimat ko bhi agar aap follow kerna chahtay hein tu karein,
    lekin mere aqeeda tou yeh he hai ke
    Kitab ALLAH ki aur Peer-e-Kamil AAP(SAWW) ki zaat, aur koi thikana kyon dhonday!!!!!!!!!!
    dito dito dito

    xactly thats what i want to say...k mangna sirf ALLAH PAAK se hai aur wohi kehte hain k jaise apne kaha k ALLAH PAAK namak tak ka kehte hain k MUJHSAY mango wahi par ALLAH PAAK jotay ka laces (feeta....tasma) tak ka kehta hain k mjhse he mango...aur NABI SAL ALLAHU ALAHI WASALLAM k sadqay se zaroor manga jasakta hai magar direct unse nahi...Sajda kisi tor jaiz nahi...

    apne jo batain kahin hian mane yehi sari batian buhat he tafseel main ki hain magar har koi itne lambay replies nahi parhega magar apne is chote se reply main in sari baton ko conclude kardya hai...buhat he zabardast kam kya hai apne...

    JAZAK ALLAH KHAIR WAA AHSAN U JAZA...

    ALLAH PAAK apk ilm main mazeed izafa farmain AMEEN SUMMA AMEEN YAA RABUL'ALAMEEN
    Last edited by Assassins; 27-08-2010 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassins View Post


    ALLAH PAAK apk ilm main mazeed izafa farmain AMEEN SUMMA AMEEN YAA RABUL'ALAMEEN

    That's what we are short of...
    Behtar ye hai k Qur'an Pak ko study kr liya jaey.All things will be clear then...
    Atleast 1 bar tarjuma he go through kr lain to boat c confusions dor ho jaeyn gi in shaa Allah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassins View Post

    logic hai is main...mjhe hairat hai k apko is main logic q nahi nazar aya...kya hamare han sajday nahi kye jatay qabroon ko kya hamaray han mazaroon par bidatain nahi hoti...kya hamaray han ursoon main aisi rasoomat nahi hoti jo ISLAM k sakht khilaf hain...ap ne shaid wo video nahi dekhi jo kisi 2 number peer ki ya patanahi kisi aise banday ki the aur usmain nachnay ko kaha jaraha tha aur us baba klye shirkya kalmat kahe jarahay the aur sath he sath un logon ko galyan b di jarahi the mic se jo us baba ki tareef pe dance nahi kar rahay the aur wo baba zinda tha wahi par betha hua tha magar hazaroon ki tadad main usk mureed the wahan par aur ye bat kahi jarahi the bar bar galyan di jarahi the k jo dance nahi karega wo ye falana ho dhamaka ho...
    abi b apko illogical lagti hain ye chezain??????strangeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    shocked......
    ap apni surroundings main b nazar doraya karo aur halaat ki khabar rakho ab to aisi chezain baqaida news main arahi hain...phir b ap keh rahay ho illogical...

    ap ka ye comment zaroor illogical tha magar ye post nahi


    agar behas barae behas karni hayto aap thek keh rahe ho.. baat simple si hay.. ke beshak ham bohat ghalat kar rahe hain ,maine aisa kabhi nahi kaha ke ham bilkul thek hain aap thek se post parhna meri.. shirk jesa k qabaron par sajda karna... ye sab ho raha hay hmaare yahan.. is se kisi ne ikhtalaaf nahi kia..ye reality hay..aur boht ghlat hora hay..aur mai samjhta hun ye sab mazhab se doori ki buniyaad par hora hay.. aap un musalmao ki baat karte ho jo sirf isliy musalman hain k wo mulim ghar me paida hogae..warna namaz quran se dur dur ka inka koi wasta nahi hota..jo ik bar bhi thek se quran parhe..wo kaise kisi aur ko sajda kar skta hay ? jahalat sirf taleemi idare me na jane se nahi hoti.. mai manta hun Islaam se doori b jahalat hi hay..aur aise musalmano ko compare karna.. thts not fair..maine sirf jahil logo ko hi qabro per sajda kare dekha hy.,ap ne shied perhe likho ko bhi dekha ho..hmari society me aise boht jahil hain manta hun,lekin apko 5 waqt ke namazi kyon dikhai nhi dete? compare hi karna hyto unse karo

    dosri baat.. meri baat ko ap ne ghlat way me lia jazbaat me a kar.. illogical maine in chezo ko nahi.. is poetry ko kaha jisme ik hindu khud ko musalman se compare kar raha hai..in actuall wo jin so called musalmano ki bat kra hy..wo sirf naam nehad musalman hain.. sache momin per poetry likhna nahi aati inhe.

    again clear kardun. maine ye hergiz nhi kaha ke sab thek hora hay aur shirk nhi hora hay.. maine poetry ka kaaha k ye illogical hay k kisi hindo ko naam nehad musalman se compare karna... aur apni apni soch hay aur mai ye samjhta hon.. ap shocked ho ya mera commnt illogical laga to thek hay.. ye meri soch. wo apki

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~*Rano*~ View Post
    @Aaeeze

    u ne kaha keh

    Allah says those are:
    Anbia(A.S),Shuhadaa, Siddiqeen, Saleeheen

    tu siddiqeen kon thay? saleeheen kon thay? Allah k naik log kaya sirf Anbia ikram he thay? jo log apne mizar ibaad ker k bethay hain wo kio ibaad hain phir? qabristaan kio nai ibaad wahan kaya naik log nai dafan?

    Mafhoof-e-Hadees:
    Mery baad meri qabar ko sjda gah mt bnao jaisa k tmsy pehly logon ny keya...
    Jb Sarwar-e-kainat apny lieay ye hukm farma rahay hain to baqion k baray mein ap khud soch lain
    Last edited by Aezee; 27-08-2010 at 03:08 PM.

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    ♥As Salam O Alaikum!♥
    ♥Khairiat Mojud ba khariat matloob♥

    ap ne to meri dukhti rag pe haath rakh dia hai..jub humen insaniat ki jan Hazrat Muhammad SAWW ko sajda ka hukam ni to phir koi aur kese?
    agr hum unko naik buzarg mante hn,to humen ye b elam hona chahiye k unn naik buzurg ko sub se ziada takleef hoti hai,humsirf unki izat kren,aur unke ahkamat ko follow kren,bus...haan mard log sirf unki qabar pe ja kr Fatiha khawani kr skte hn..nothing more..
    even k sadqat khairat b apne ird gird mustahiq logon ko ada kren,wahan galon me na dalen..
    siso Rano hum sub ka Nazriya Quraan hai..
    humare iss amal ki wajah se hum b muslim ni rehte,to koi aur b mutasir ho kr emman ni lata..
    think plz from heart ...

    ♥A smile is the universal welcome♥

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezee View Post
    for such a nice sharing...
    I must say A very thought provoking sharing...

    1 thing I want to add from the kalam of Moulana Altaf Hussain Hali
    Karay gar ghair bout ki poja to kafir
    Kawakib mein manay karishma to kafir




    magar mouminon py kushada hain rahain
    parastish krain shouq say jis ki chahain



    wali ko jo chahain Nabi kr dikhaen
    Nabion ka rutba Khuda say barhaen


    Shaheedon say ja ja k mangain duain
    Na touheed mein kuch khalal is say aye
    Na islam bigray na Emaan jaey...
    nice but ye thori incomplete hai and es main thori see ghaltiyan hain can ishare this full poem???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamza khan View Post


    nice but ye thori incomplete hai and es main thori see ghaltiyan hain can ishare this full poem???
    zaroor jinab zaroor share karain ap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezee View Post

    That's what we are short of...
    Behtar ye hai k Qur'an Pak ko study kr liya jaey.All things will be clear then...
    Atleast 1 bar tarjuma he go through kr lain to boat c confusions dor ho jaeyn gi in shaa Allah...
    FEE BARAK ALLAH

    bat apki bilkul sahi hai tarjuma b go through karlya jae...magar main yahan aik bat aur add karna chahonga k isk sath sath koi authentic tafseer jaise k TAFSEER IBNE KASEER hogae ya koi b aur authentic tafseer ho us se b help li jae...ye hamaray haq main behtar hogi usse humain ye maloom hojaega k konsi Ayat kis hawalay se aur kis moqay par nazil hue...aur is se ye hoga k uska ghalat matlab samjhne k bajae hum usko ache tareqay se samjh sakenge...

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